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半小时后走出大派展厅,转入旁边的大昌展厅———— [复制链接]

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不会吧兄弟的意见相信是大多数朋友的观点。
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KENTRYFO 在 2003-12-15 8:30:37 发表的内容
salu 在 2003-12-14 22:36:08 发表的内容
madog 在 2003-12-14 13:21:04 发表的内容
[quote]阿泰 在 2003-12-8 15:49:23 发表的内容
[quote]salu 在 2003-12-8 10:40:11 发表的内容
[quote]车大炮 在 2003-12-7 1:45:24 发表的内容
因为有好多人说大派胆机的不是,这回我专门到大派的展厅听个究竟,大派胆机今天推的是JK的PM-122II大型音箱,我用了约半小时,听了多首乐曲,歌曲。
出来后转到旁边的大昌展厅,一入门口,我就发觉,刚才我浪费了那半小时!
可能有人说是什么回事,说也没用,你在两个地方听过之后就有答案了。


陳經綸確實比大派有派頭,手上拿的是煙斗而不是咪頭,細絲腳架的無框眼鏡,在細節上很會作派的,害我有想買個煙斗的衝動。造形上跟天朗的紳士風格滿般配的,加分!嘿嘿!
不過這次的超高音喇叭的表現還是稍過了點,稍銳利了點,感覺有點生澀,像新喇叭沒有煲透似的,配合不了紳士的那種醇和泰然的味道,有點失衡了,減分!


陳經綸的演示和器材表現相得益彰,都貴氣滿堂。
那天反應熱烈到他想去吃飯都不行,慘!!!





Yeah, the high frequency is a bit sharp in some recording but I think the   most important performance is, the system has the ability to preserve all
the details. This I guess could be rectified by changing other interconnect
or speaker cable. If it can change it to more mellow, soft but with speed, then it will be regarded as a high-end system. The most important issue in a
system is, they (all electronics) are capable to reproduce all the details,
nuance from the software (CD). then we can tailor the sound how they
express in a way we think the best.
If one system does not own such quality, then no matter what sort of cable
or interconnect one used has not good result. That is, as Mr.Chan commented in his music demo, he always emphasize the resolution of the
electronics and the bass region is the best way to demonstrate the
capability of the amps, CD players, DAC, etc.etc.
The harsh high frequency you'd heard, I think is the measure of enegy in such a way, depands where you sit (the distance between your goodself
and the loudspeaker.
Mr. Chan also stated that, good system should full-fill the room with music
regardless of where you sit or stand, but the best way to hear the focus of the solo instrument or vocal, of course should be in the middle of the
loudspeakers and somewhere away from them.
I still remember Mr.Chan said many years ago, " turn on your system and
walk our from your music room, if you feel that you can feel the music is
player as if somebody(s) is(are) playing live, then it shouldn't be a bad
system."

I am not trying to coaching people but I think Mr. Chan's comments are
quite OK.

Sorry folks, I can only type English and fogive my poor Chinese typing.

By the way, Ah Tai, Mr. Chan would like to thank you for the comment you
had written and he wanted me to show his appreciations to you and to
CHIR DAI PAU.[/quote]


爲什麽說高音稍過呢?總體平衡來説,讓人一聼就可感覺出超高頻來,未能完全融進整體之中,因此說銜接稍有失衡了。坐在第四排正中,陳洁麗小妹妹的錄音,本就高頻較尖細的,超高音喇叭表現出來也很幼細,奈何除此之外還有一些衍生出來的假細節,因此才說有生澀未煲透的感覺。能夠看得出來的刻意,算不上貴气。

阿淘的錄音《水路》,第四首《蒲公英》,歌詞大意是這樣的:
黃黃花蕊、日頭下睡,
圓圓小球、令人惜愛,
小時候叫它作糖波波,
握在手上,它會度你飛過河背,
歐。。。。。。
追風的孩子不見了,
追風的心情不見了,
不變的是追風的季節,
手上的糖波波隨風而飛。
整首曲子都是一種遠景的描繪,追憶的小時候,隨風飛遠的蒲公英,詩人老婆婆的娓娓背景獨白,意境多麽悠遠。遇上同軸大喇叭,請把音量收細,點解?豐滿的聲音填滿整個房間,沒有留下散發想象的空間,意境何來?用長焦,還是用廣角?

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很于风度的“英文人”,以我憋足的英文水平,勉强看明白了。终于明白了一点陈先生的意向。也明白了一些事。我想,我们的斑竹应该热烈欢迎“英文”的出现,这是长期以来我对论坛冲出“地域化”涅盘的期望。[/quote]


Thanks countryfolk and nice to hear you are open minded. Please do not be misunderstood, Mr.Chan is only a common friend of mine, and I've
learned a lot from him. I regard he is my teacher in audio but he'd never
admitted that I am his student. This is his style even thou he designes
electronics but he never show off and this is him.
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谢绝挑逗^x^
最后编辑阿泰
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madog 在 2003-12-14 13:21:04 发表的内容
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Mr. Chan also stated that, good system should full-fill the room with music
regardless of where you sit or stand, but the best way to hear the focus of the solo instrument or vocal, of course should be in the middle of the
loudspeakers and somewhere away from them.
I still remember Mr.Chan said many years ago, " turn on your system and
walk our from your music room, if you feel that you can feel the music is
player as if somebody(s) is(are) playing live, then it shouldn't be a bad
system."

音樂廳一樣的氛圍,是最HI-END的,i'm lovin'it------。
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我靠:这种暗号都想得出来,真是佩服啊,这种暗号一旦答非所问,又不会做人,随时有被k的危险,真是好暗号,高!
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salu 在 2003-12-14 22:36:08 发表的内容
madog 在 2003-12-14 13:21:04 发表的内容
阿泰 在 2003-12-8 15:49:23 发表的内容
[quote]salu 在 2003-12-8 10:40:11 发表的内容
[quote]车大炮 在 2003-12-7 1:45:24 发表的内容
因为有好多人说大派胆机的不是,这回我专门到大派的展厅听个究竟,大派胆机今天推的是JK的PM-122II大型音箱,我用了约半小时,听了多首乐曲,歌曲。
出来后转到旁边的大昌展厅,一入门口,我就发觉,刚才我浪费了那半小时!
可能有人说是什么回事,说也没用,你在两个地方听过之后就有答案了。


陳經綸確實比大派有派頭,手上拿的是煙斗而不是咪頭,細絲腳架的無框眼鏡,在細節上很會作派的,害我有想買個煙斗的衝動。造形上跟天朗的紳士風格滿般配的,加分!嘿嘿!
不過這次的超高音喇叭的表現還是稍過了點,稍銳利了點,感覺有點生澀,像新喇叭沒有煲透似的,配合不了紳士的那種醇和泰然的味道,有點失衡了,減分!


陳經綸的演示和器材表現相得益彰,都貴氣滿堂。
那天反應熱烈到他想去吃飯都不行,慘!!!





Yeah, the high frequency is a bit sharp in some recording but I think the   most important performance is, the system has the ability to preserve all
the details. This I guess could be rectified by changing other interconnect
or speaker cable. If it can change it to more mellow, soft but with speed, then it will be regarded as a high-end system. The most important issue in a
system is, they (all electronics) are capable to reproduce all the details,
nuance from the software (CD). then we can tailor the sound how they
express in a way we think the best.
If one system does not own such quality, then no matter what sort of cable
or interconnect one used has not good result. That is, as Mr.Chan commented in his music demo, he always emphasize the resolution of the
electronics and the bass region is the best way to demonstrate the
capability of the amps, CD players, DAC, etc.etc.
The harsh high frequency you'd heard, I think is the measure of enegy in such a way, depands where you sit (the distance between your goodself
and the loudspeaker.
Mr. Chan also stated that, good system should full-fill the room with music
regardless of where you sit or stand, but the best way to hear the focus of the solo instrument or vocal, of course should be in the middle of the
loudspeakers and somewhere away from them.
I still remember Mr.Chan said many years ago, " turn on your system and
walk our from your music room, if you feel that you can feel the music is
player as if somebody(s) is(are) playing live, then it shouldn't be a bad
system."

I am not trying to coaching people but I think Mr. Chan's comments are
quite OK.

Sorry folks, I can only type English and fogive my poor Chinese typing.

By the way, Ah Tai, Mr. Chan would like to thank you for the comment you
had written and he wanted me to show his appreciations to you and to
CHIR DAI PAU.[/quote]


爲什麽說高音稍過呢?總體平衡來説,讓人一聼就可感覺出超高頻來,未能完全融進整體之中,因此說銜接稍有失衡了。坐在第四排正中,陳洁麗小妹妹的錄音,本就高頻較尖細的,超高音喇叭表現出來也很幼細,奈何除此之外還有一些衍生出來的假細節,因此才說有生澀未煲透的感覺。能夠看得出來的刻意,算不上貴气。

阿淘的錄音《水路》,第四首《蒲公英》,歌詞大意是這樣的:
黃黃花蕊、日頭下睡,
圓圓小球、令人惜愛,
小時候叫它作糖波波,
握在手上,它會度你飛過河背,
歐。。。。。。
追風的孩子不見了,
追風的心情不見了,
不變的是追風的季節,
手上的糖波波隨風而飛。
整首曲子都是一種遠景的描繪,追憶的小時候,隨風飛遠的蒲公英,詩人老婆婆的娓娓背景獨白,意境多麽悠遠。遇上同軸大喇叭,請把音量收細,點解?豐滿的聲音填滿整個房間,沒有留下散發想象的空間,意境何來?用長焦,還是用廣角?

[/quote]
很于风度的“英文人”,以我憋足的英文水平,勉强看明白了。终于明白了一点陈先生的意向。也明白了一些事。我想,我们的斑竹应该热烈欢迎“英文”的出现,这是长期以来我对论坛冲出“地域化”涅盘的期望。
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I see
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暗号就定为:
1.往富盛,问大派-答富盛,进店小坐,否则……
2.往大派,问富盛-答大派,进店小坐,否则……
这样答非所问是不容易被狡猾的敌人所识破的,如何?同志就这样决定了吧?
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我们对声音的确是知道得太少了,在此帖中,经已有两种音响理论派别的人讲话了:一种是坚持"皇帝位"的,另外一种是努力摆脱“皇帝位”的。而按我的理解,此两种理论取向,均应无碍于扩大机的设计。真希望籍着hiend品牌的话头,把这个问题探讨得深一点。
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哪一位,最好能把英文翻译一下,因为,实在是进入到一个大家可以讨论和真正学一点东西的时候了,机不可失!!!要么,请e、l、K、KUGANG等斑竹安排一下,应该翻译出来,让更多的人有机会学习。再就是:陈先生的论点无疑是正确的,也可能是大家的共同期待。
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