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半小时后走出大派展厅,转入旁边的大昌展厅———— [复制链接]

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31#

在展示会上,系统的表现很难去追求它的定位和音场,但音质的好坏还是可以判断的:)
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dcm 在 2003-12-15 1:07:11 发表的内容
看了几天了,够长多。正好出差路过广州,争取有机会去富盛、大派处听一下,上次路过,没听太可惜了。希望两店不要衣貌待人就行了,我可没打算扎领带(刚参加工作时喜欢)去听音。


要接头暗号吗?[upload=jpg]uploadImages/200312151455495896.jpg[/upload]
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系统的去考虑,清楚自己要的是什么:)
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menn 在 2003-12-16 11:52:17 发表的内容
KENTRYFO兄有副好耳朵!您谈到的这个问题已经折磨了我快一个星期了;没想到什么别的好招对付,休息两天找找灵感再去解决之。如能顺利解决,届时再约兄面谈。

如果动用hifi168,那么网友的才智是必然可以克服之的。!!!
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leslie 在 2003-12-16 12:04:32 发表的内容
[quote]而我理解经纶先生要的不只是“没有皇帝位”的声音,而是美妙的声音能弥漫在你的周围而感动你,皇帝位则能带来更多定位和音场的表现。见笑了。
正点!!!!!!
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leslie 在 2003-12-16 12:04:32 发表的内容
[quote]而我理解经纶先生要的不只是“没有皇帝位”的声音,而是美妙的声音能弥漫在你的周围而感动你,皇帝位则能带来更多定位和音场的表现。见笑了。

如果我们每次争论都能取得更进一步的共识,那——大团圆的结局。。。。。。嘻嘻嘻哈哈哈。
最后编辑KENTRYFO
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游峡 在 2003-12-16 14:49:26 发表的内容
想没有皇帝位解决喇叭的相位失真是首要,想音场表现还须解解决低频中上段的量和传真度,更应该解决低频中上段与中频上段一直至到高频上段的相位的一致性,极高频起到润泽的作用。

要讨论这个最好另开主题,前面一大堆。。。。。。唉!

老兄你开主题吧,我一定来。
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salu 在 2003-12-14 22:36:08 发表的内容
madog 在 2003-12-14 13:21:04 发表的内容
阿泰 在 2003-12-8 15:49:23 发表的内容
[quote]salu 在 2003-12-8 10:40:11 发表的内容
[quote]车大炮 在 2003-12-7 1:45:24 发表的内容
因为有好多人说大派胆机的不是,这回我专门到大派的展厅听个究竟,大派胆机今天推的是JK的PM-122II大型音箱,我用了约半小时,听了多首乐曲,歌曲。
出来后转到旁边的大昌展厅,一入门口,我就发觉,刚才我浪费了那半小时!
可能有人说是什么回事,说也没用,你在两个地方听过之后就有答案了。


陳經綸確實比大派有派頭,手上拿的是煙斗而不是咪頭,細絲腳架的無框眼鏡,在細節上很會作派的,害我有想買個煙斗的衝動。造形上跟天朗的紳士風格滿般配的,加分!嘿嘿!
不過這次的超高音喇叭的表現還是稍過了點,稍銳利了點,感覺有點生澀,像新喇叭沒有煲透似的,配合不了紳士的那種醇和泰然的味道,有點失衡了,減分!


陳經綸的演示和器材表現相得益彰,都貴氣滿堂。
那天反應熱烈到他想去吃飯都不行,慘!!!





Yeah, the high frequency is a bit sharp in some recording but I think the   most important performance is, the system has the ability to preserve all
the details. This I guess could be rectified by changing other interconnect
or speaker cable. If it can change it to more mellow, soft but with speed, then it will be regarded as a high-end system. The most important issue in a
system is, they (all electronics) are capable to reproduce all the details,
nuance from the software (CD). then we can tailor the sound how they
express in a way we think the best.
If one system does not own such quality, then no matter what sort of cable
or interconnect one used has not good result. That is, as Mr.Chan commented in his music demo, he always emphasize the resolution of the
electronics and the bass region is the best way to demonstrate the
capability of the amps, CD players, DAC, etc.etc.
The harsh high frequency you'd heard, I think is the measure of enegy in such a way, depands where you sit (the distance between your goodself
and the loudspeaker.
Mr. Chan also stated that, good system should full-fill the room with music
regardless of where you sit or stand, but the best way to hear the focus of the solo instrument or vocal, of course should be in the middle of the
loudspeakers and somewhere away from them.
I still remember Mr.Chan said many years ago, " turn on your system and
walk our from your music room, if you feel that you can feel the music is
player as if somebody(s) is(are) playing live, then it shouldn't be a bad
system."

I am not trying to coaching people but I think Mr. Chan's comments are
quite OK.

Sorry folks, I can only type English and fogive my poor Chinese typing.

By the way, Ah Tai, Mr. Chan would like to thank you for the comment you
had written and he wanted me to show his appreciations to you and to
CHIR DAI PAU.[/quote]


爲什麽說高音稍過呢?總體平衡來説,讓人一聼就可感覺出超高頻來,未能完全融進整體之中,因此說銜接稍有失衡了。坐在第四排正中,陳洁麗小妹妹的錄音,本就高頻較尖細的,超高音喇叭表現出來也很幼細,奈何除此之外還有一些衍生出來的假細節,因此才說有生澀未煲透的感覺。能夠看得出來的刻意,算不上貴气。

阿淘的錄音《水路》,第四首《蒲公英》,歌詞大意是這樣的:
黃黃花蕊、日頭下睡,
圓圓小球、令人惜愛,
小時候叫它作糖波波,
握在手上,它會度你飛過河背,
歐。。。。。。
追風的孩子不見了,
追風的心情不見了,
不變的是追風的季節,
手上的糖波波隨風而飛。
整首曲子都是一種遠景的描繪,追憶的小時候,隨風飛遠的蒲公英,詩人老婆婆的娓娓背景獨白,意境多麽悠遠。遇上同軸大喇叭,請把音量收細,點解?豐滿的聲音填滿整個房間,沒有留下散發想象的空間,意境何來?用長焦,還是用廣角?

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No one would or able to justify what is the real measure on how it would
sound at home even the authors (recording engineers, composers, recording directors) as they use their own studio equipments as reference. In this
way, we can only judging the degree of realism by digging more details
from the software and express them nicely, that is more musical but not lost of detail.

I was not there when they play the 'WATER WAY"  and I have no idea
how the performance was. Perhaps, this peotic piece of music is more
appropriate to reproduce in such a way and I believe nothing concern on what speaker system you are listening.
By the way, did you suggest the host to turn up the volumn ? I think they will be more than happy to accept your request and turn up the volumn as if you are in a disco ?

My friend, I still sense some gas from you, and I am expecting you to
stand in a more neutral position to discuss audio as in the internet, there
are lots of people are watching. Only an open discussion could give our
youngster readers a model to follow that is not to show hostility during
discussion. At this moment, I think I should introduce you to Mr.Chan then you can directly discuss this matter with him face to face ?

Hi Fi is fun, is a matter to entertain ourselves and by all means, it is not
necessary to be full of gase and hatred. That is not good for health and
damage other people.
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看了几天了,够长多。正好出差路过广州,争取有机会去富盛、大派处听一下,上次路过,没听太可惜了。希望两店不要衣貌待人就行了,我可没打算扎领带(刚参加工作时喜欢)去听音。
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rogerwewe 在 2003-12-14 13:55:05 发表的内容
你感谢阿泰,那不是给他锅背吗?
^_^_^_^
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