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5341#

许兄,紫荆花限量版电源线一般要煲多少个小时才算煲透?
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5342#

新居到手,最愁的就是布线问题。从火表拉二根6MM专线到听音室问题不大。(许兄推荐一款好牌子的电线)

关键是地线问题哦,住8楼,独立拉线困难,钻大楼角柱钢筋又危险。。。。不知道怎么办了。共用地线还不如没地线
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5343#

AQ的教材--关于双线分音
http://www.soundcity.com/info/faqsbiwiring.html
What is Biwiring?
Bi-wire by Audioquest!!!
This article is to help consumers to increase their understanding of BiWiring and clarify some misunderstandings. Many of today's speakers can be BiWired meaning the speaker has inputs for the woofer and separate inputs for the upper frequency ranges. Should you BiWire? If so, should you biwire with a single cable (Single BiWire / SBW) or with two separate cables (Double-BiWire / DBW)? Read on.
  
The whole idea of BiWiring often leads to the question "is BiWiring so important that I should spend twice as much on cable?" Maybe it is worth spending twice as much on cable in general, but that's a separate question. BiWiring is a way to save money or to get higher performance for the same price. The BiWiring question is not about how much money to spend, but about how to get the most performance for one's money. BiWiring is a way of providing your customers more value for the amount of money they spend.
  
When using a single speaker cable (not BiWiring) the large amounts of bass energy have an adverse effect on the upper frequencies. BiWiring is done in order to substantially reduce the distortion caused by speaker cable. In a BiWire set-up the cable feeding the higher ranges no longer handles the large magnetic fields caused by the high current needed to produce bass. BiWiring does not affect the bass fundamentals, but the treble signal now travels a less distorted path. A little like the difference between swimming through waves versus through smooth water. The bass will sound better because bass definition (harmonics) is in the midrange and higher frequencies. It is worthwhile to take advantage of the benefits of BiWiring when the speaker manufacturer has gone to the extra expense of providing this capability. The performance benefits of reducing distortion this way are substantial.
  
When BiWiring, the two cables must either be identical, or have essentially identical geometries. If the cables have different geometries they will have different inductance and capacitance. Capacitance and inductance are the values used to create a loudspeaker’s low-pass and high-pass networks (together making a crossover). Different values in the two cables effectively redesigns the crossover … not a good thing! The integrity and coherence of the speaker will be compromised.
  
For best performance, use two of the same cables. If the speaker has a low crossover point (a 3-way speaker or a panel-hybrid such as Martin Logan) much of the benefit of using two identical cables can be realized by using two cables which have the same geometry, but which use different qualities of metal. CV-4 paired with Type-4 to drive the bass, for example. Why do this? Price: It’s less expensive.
  
This “trick” does not work for 2-way speakers. They have their BiWire access frequency above the midrange … music and voice and practically everything else is in the midrange and must be given full respect. Use two identical cables.
  
Another option is using a single cable that can be divided to BiWire with. We call this Single-BiWire (SBW). This works better with some cables than with others – but BiWiring using two separate cables is always better. We do not recommend you Single-BiWiwire with a Quad-Helix model (Type-2, Type-4, CV-4, KE-4). If you are curious, make up two sets of cables and listen for yourself. Even more importantly, please understand that, except for the Flat-Rock Series, it is better to use two less expensive cables than to Single-BiWire with one better cable. Using two pairs of CV-6 is better than a Single-BiWired Mont Blanc, for example.
The Flat-Rock Series (Slate, Bedrock, Rockefeller, Gibraltar) are excellent for Single-BiWiring. While optimized for use as full-range cables, these models, when used as Single-BiWire cables, actually become a specialized true Double-BiWire thanks to their two Quad-Helix component. The two groups of conductors have a degree of magnetic autonomy found in no other single cable. Pretty cool, don’t you think?
Just as the Flat-Rock Series is excellent for Single-BiWiring, the Earth-Feature Series (Pikes Peak to Everest), is the poorest for SBW. One of the significant advantages of these cables is the unusually effective way they manage the relationships between magnetic fields. The conductors spiral in opposite directions, but the positive and negative groups form two tubes whose relationship is constant and non-changing. Dividing the conductors in these models does very little to separate the magnetic fields of the bass and treble groups.
  
That leaves the 6-Series in which Single-BiWiring is effective, though only half as effective as running a Double-BiWire of CV-4.
  
One can Double-BiWire by stacking connectors at the amp, or by simply ordering Double-BiWire cables. We simply join the two cables together at the amp end before attaching the terminations. The price is simply the same as adding together the price of the two cables, whether the same model or different models.
  
You, as the expert, are in the best position to evaluate your customer’s needs. 1) You may choose to sell the customer (for example) a Single-BiWire Pikes Peak because Single-BiWire is what the customer demands. 2) Or you may recommend two pairs of CV-6 because that is what will sound best. 3) Or you may recommend a single Full-Range pair of Pikes Peak and a set of AudioQuest PSC Jumpers to replace the disgusting sounding gold over nickel plated brass (or worse) pieces supplied with the speakers … this is the best way to leave open the possibility of adding another pair of Pikes Peak later, or better yet, a set of Mont Blanc or Kilimanjaro on the treble if the speaker is a 3-way.
  
When using a single set of cables to a BiWirable speaker, you might as well do it properly … it costs nothing and makes a difference you can hear. When using jumpers (factory supplied or replacements), be sure to put both red and black connectors to the treble input of a 3-way or panel-hybrid. Bass is less sensitive to having the jumpers in the signal path.
  
For 2-way speakers, be sure to put red to treble and black to bass … this is the only way to preserve the tonal voice the speaker designer intended.
  
If you do not BiWire, at the very least, please connect a single set of speaker cables as recommended above, and then if you’re not comfortable enough in the role of the expert to sell a $20 set of AQ PSC Jumpers, then use a small piece of solid conductor, or a cable like AQ Type 1, to do the jumping. Just as better electronics do not come with poor interconnect cables, it is best to pretend your fine speakers simply did not come with cheap stamped metal jumpers. It’s entirely accurate to describe the free shiny metal jumpers as “worth every penny you paid for them.”
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5344#

许兄您好,

对于您所提的双线分音建议 CV6.2+Type6.2, 其效果与一条Gibraltar比较如何?您试过吗?
谢谢
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5345#

这几天狂煲终极版信号线,应该有70个小时左右了,期间声音变化确实很大,有时候声音会变得很难听。请问许兄,衰声期何时出现?如果以100小时为临界点,其前后声音变化有多大?完全煲透大概要多久?
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5346#

許兄,

音箱回到惠州後馬上試聽,因還沒有CD机,所以先用部700元的DVD机做音源..嘩....厲害.....己經是好正.如果買了心中的CD机,不知道會是什境界.  FS-788加上快声的胆机,是我現在最愛的..謝謝您的幫忙.   另外請你做多一条3米的电源線.(沒有皮的,排插的品牌)..在你冢先拿的2条線我都拿下.請3条線一起算個價錢給我,明天滙欵.
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5347#

偶也恭喜laovo兄一下,到时也上张exposure2010S照片让大家欣赏欣赏。
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5348#

[quote]qiyunsheng 在 2005-10-25 21:51:30 发表的内容
不怕折就好。偶还一直担心呢。

的确是我目前为止用过最好的信号线,尤其是表现弦乐方面,丝丝入扣,亮而不炫,空 气感很好。

只是交响方面的低频量感和控制差点(不是信号线的问题,我已订下威马兄的顶线钨钢3号电源线,到时耳放的低频量感和力度会有大大改善)[/quote]





呵呵,是的,应该有良好的搭配,取长补短.
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5349#

本人不喜欢也不会写听感,不过还是要赞一下许兄的线材,限量版的跳线接上后就给了我很大的惊喜,借用许兄的一句话:很舒服的声音.期待煲后的声音,更期待许兄不断推出高性价的东西!
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5350#

许兄,明天我的exposure2010S就要进驻,呜呜呜,没有好的电源线啊
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5351#

[quote]qiyunsheng 在 2005-10-25 21:51:30 发表的内容
不怕折就好。偶还一直担心呢。

的确是我目前为止用过最好的信号线,尤其是表现弦乐方面,丝丝入扣,亮而不炫,空 气感很好。

只是交响方面的低频量感和控制差点(不是信号线的问题,我已订下威马兄的顶线钨钢3号电源线,到时耳放的低频量感和力度会有大大改善)[/quote]
现在说低频的问题还为时过早,紫荆花终极版信号线褒到100个小时以后才能听到它的真面目,动态凌厉多了,和刚开声的时候判若两人,低频也出来了。我是接在DVD上面连续褒了4天多,应该比断断续续褒要好点。如果用女人来打比方的话,刚开声的风格好比范冰冰章子怡,100个小时以后就是霹雳娇娃
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5352#

[quote]残阳如血 在 2005-10-25 9:22:10 发表的内容
[quote]38度5 在 2005-10-25 0:34:24 发表的内容
[quote]qiyunsheng 在 2005-10-24 22:01:34 发表的内容
希望快点搬新居,然后搞一组音响承板,这下紫荆花就可以放松放松了[/quote]


期待,新居一定要考虑一下电源的情况,拉一条专用电源线比买一条很贵的电源线提升更大.[/quote]

许兄应该考虑搞滴几十文一米滴便价电源线俾大家布屋企滴线。
紫荆花要300个钟先进入状态?!要在15天试用期内搞掂它,岂不是要24小时无停?我惊我喏几只蛋蛋顶唔顺,要玩完。
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余兄,紫荆花100小时就足够你去确定是否留下了.至于布线用的电源线,我正在考虑.
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5353#

[quote]lazi 在 2005-10-25 18:39:26 发表的内容
許兄,

音箱回到惠州後馬上試聽,因還沒有CD机,所以先用部700元的DVD机做音源..嘩....厲害.....己經是好正.如果買了心中的CD机,不知道會是什境界.  FS-788加上快声的胆机,是我現在最愛的..謝謝您的幫忙.   另外請你做多一条3米的电源線.(沒有皮的,排插的品牌)..在你冢先拿的2条線我都拿下.請3条線一起算個價錢給我,明天滙欵.
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老吴,你好,这是我第一次帮朋友从境外运箱子进来,属于一次演习,能够让你满意,我非常开心.今后有机会我还会帮大家再搞些特价的音箱,器材回来.电源线的事情请收短信.
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5354#

吴兄,紫荆花是不怕弯曲的,即使有烧烧折痕也不影响.
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5355#

[quote]蝎子 在 2005-10-25 17:22:42 发表的内容
这几天狂煲终极版信号线,应该有70个小时左右了,期间声音变化确实很大,有时候声音会变得很难听。请问许兄,衰声期何时出现?如果以100小时为临界点,其前后声音变化有多大?完全煲透大概要多久?[/quote]



蝎子兄,因为声音的变化是渐进的,所以很难告诉你100小时以前如何,100小时以后如何.如果连续煲300小时应该稳定,关于煲线过程的变化和体会,wxs兄非常有心得,你可以跟他交流.
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[quote]laovo 在 2005-10-25 19:58:42 发表的内容
许兄,明天我的exposure2010S就要进驻,呜呜呜,没有好的电源线啊[/quote]



恭喜你啊! 随机线先顶一顶吧.呜呼....
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5357#

[quote]qiyunsheng 在 2005-10-25 20:41:26 发表的内容
新居到手,最愁的就是布线问题。从火表拉二根6MM专线到听音室问题不大。(许兄推荐一款好牌子的电线)

关键是地线问题哦,住8楼,独立拉线困难,钻大楼角柱钢筋又危险。。。。不知道怎么办了。共用地线还不如没地线[/quote]





吴兄,你好,地线问题我好像看过有一个帖子,你搜索一下.应该有所收获. 电源线建议用质量好一些的工业电缆.比如广州丽湾电缆厂的.
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[quote]38度5 在 2005-10-26 11:12:34 发表的内容
刚开声的风格好比范冰冰章子怡,100个小时以后就是霹雳娇娃




哇,万兄的口味跟我不同哦.我喜欢陈瑾,虽然老了点,不过我是从她年轻时候就喜欢的.哈哈哈.[/quote]

只是评线而已,谈到女人的话,个人心中的理想女性国内还是喜欢徐静蕾和现在的章曼玉,国外的蒂弗泰勒(指环王里的精灵公主)和法国的苏飞玛索
玩玩的话,日本的高树玛丽亚不错,嘿嘿
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5359#

现在好像进入劣声期了,没有前天听的时候那种自然、柔和的感觉。

不想开机猛煲,还是煲粥一样慢慢炖吧
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5360#

不怕折就好。偶还一直担心呢。

的确是我目前为止用过最好的信号线,尤其是表现弦乐方面,丝丝入扣,亮而不炫,空 气感很好。

只是交响方面的低频量感和控制差点(不是信号线的问题,我已订下威马兄的顶线钨钢3号电源线,到时耳放的低频量感和力度会有大大改善)
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