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kick 在 2003-9-10 9:30:55 发表的内容
另外搞一只合并式石后级可以放大动态了吗?
如果能够证明LB1在一定条件下也可以放大动态,那么我就有必要再搞一只后级。


你只可说小功率胆机放不了大动态,功率够电流够,多大都无问题, 听过二百瓦以上才下定论吧!
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号角! 好,但多小人那么幸福? 有对好的号角箱. 号角箱100 db  以上,几瓦就有大动态了. 我刚买了套号角单元,准备造箱上号角箱了. (Altec 288-16G , 912).
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vv 在 2003-9-10 19:34:33 发表的内容
         要是音箱线有四Ohm , 音箱有四 Ohm ,它一定会消耗大量功率, 但不一定是一半, 因音箱抗阻不是固定的. 但喇叭线有四欧,比头发还小? 数百尺?
kick 在 2003-9-10 18:45:46 发表的内容
谢谢您的鼓励,到时再换喇叭线试试。我总感觉喇叭线耗功率,因为它有电阻,假设电阻为4欧姆,而音箱为4欧姆,则一半功率消耗在喇叭线上,对吗?



1,不大可能喇叭线耗功率,應是個性的問題
2,不要對音響抱太大希X,沒全能的DD,人聲好已不簡單了,很多高價的DD也不全能!
3,應選中性,分离度好、速度快、清甜一類的CD補救,過火和太感性的也不適合。
4,控制力比功率更重要,
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4#

动态不足的,推低音应不成.
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应在0.1 欧或更低.  看来 LB1 是长冲程,要大电流推动的音箱,  电压损失一点对动态影响不是很大, 电流不足动态就会差.  电流不足的机在低阻抗下, 电压也上不去,动态也差了.
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能大二三W已不错了,  A1 是电子管在没有栅流下工作,是正式的Class A,Class A2  工作在有栅流下.  A1 比A2 声音好多了. 我沒看个它的缐路,但從它用 300B 推845 應有用交連牛,估计是工作於 A2.  你的音箱是多db?
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         低频控制不好, 加大电流, 功率输出大不了多小, 改善应有一点, 但胆会短命一点,但国產845 太便宜了,短命一点也不在乎吧?  28W机用来推88db 以小音箱应足夠.
         此机工作於A2 功率比 A1 大一点, 但音质没 A1 好, 为了多六瓦功率,值不值得?
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为胆疯狂 在 2003-9-13 3:29:26 发表的内容
单端电路跟本就不全在A1和A2累电路形色,A1和A2只能在推挽中,如果在单端有就已经好大失真了
间单来说单端就系用一只管来工作正负两个波,在电路上还要看工作电压才能定它的静态电流,才能做好达到好声


           怎么会没有 A2 ! 查清楚再说吧.  像 805  管就一定工作於A2. 845 可设计於 A1 或 A2. 不错 A2 失真是比较失真大,所以我说何必为几W 放弃 A1 音质. 你测一下它在满功率时屏流跟静态比较一下便知.  以下二个 Link 就是在讨论 A2 - 会英文的话请看看 :

            http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.pl?forum=set&n=10850&highlight=A2&r=&session=
http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.pl?forum=set&n=567&highlight=A2&r=&session=


The basic operating principle of controlling current flow in a tube (hence controlling voltage) depends upon the grid of the tube having a negative voltage potential with respect to the cathode. The grid is placed between the cathode and anode. Electrons are boiled off the cathode and are highly attracted to the positively charged anode. The more negative charge on the grid there is, the less current flow there is between the anode and cathode as the negative charge "repels" (poor term) the electrons that are trying to get from the cathode to the anode. The more positive charge there is on the grid, the less resistance there is to the moving electrons and the more current flow.
Driving a tube into A2 means that you are applying a positive voltage on the grid with respect to the cathode for part of the audio signal cycle. What this does is create current in the grid structure of the tube by attracting some of the electrons from the cathode emission. The anode is still significantly charged more positive so it still draws the majority of the current flow. Some of the beefy transmitting tubes like the 811 and 572 are designed with sturdy grid structures to handle the current that A2 operation induces (this was done with RF transmitting in mind, fortunately, they can handle class A2 for audio frequencies as well). A tube like the 2A3 does not have as sturdy of a grid structure. If you drive it into A2 regularly, you will cause increased wear on the fragile grid structure. Eventually, the grid burns up/blacks out and can no longer control the current flow. FWIW, when there is no signal on the grid, the tube is running at the maximum amount of plate power dissipation that the cathode bias allows. When you apply a signal on the grid, it swings more negative for part of the cycle thereby reducing current flow. So, on average, the tube runs cooler when it is providing power into a load. Practically speaking, the tube will last longer driving a load than it would sitting at idle. Although, that means doodley squat if you frying the grid structure driving into class A2 continuously.
4 watts rms roughly equals 8 watts peak power. RMS is the effective continuous power. An 8 watt RMS 300B amp will have 16 watts of peak power. Peak power is a relatively worthless number and if you are judging by specs, it should be ignored.

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9#

A2 并不是一种玩法而是一工作点,对胆机设计有点经验的也知道(设计胆机与玩胆机不同). 不在最好工作点只可造出个人喜好的声音,在很多人喜欢CAx ,x浪等... 造出好声是不容易的. 还有很多胆都不是设计作 A2 用的栅流更会导致短命!   小心看看上文吧!  不要单疯狂,还是科学点,保持半点清醒吧!  至於好不好声? 自己听吧! 不要太相信别人吹水.
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