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初哥眼中的静电音箱
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    先讲讲静电音箱的原理:



    不象传统音箱使用磁力来移动相对沉重的锥盆,静电箱使用极高的电压推动一个极轻极薄的膜。高电压之间会产生一个吸引力,作用相当于磁场。跟一般的摩擦生成的静电不同,在静电箱(ESL)中是由一个高压生成器把静电膜充足高压静电。 所以也不奇怪为什么一般每一只静电箱后面都要拖根电源线。



    从图上可以看到,静电膜左右都有一面定板(Stator),定板是一个导电的,但是必须基本完全透声的架子。功放的输出信号需要通过静电箱里的升压变压器从几伏升到几千伏(各厂家不同,大致在3000伏到5000伏间),然后送到前后定板。



    象磁力的南北极,正负电相互吸引。功放的音乐信号使定板一边充满正电,另一边充满负电,并且快速的反转。举个例子,钢琴的中音C是256Hz,定板上的电极性每秒会反转256次,电压也会由功放输出信号的电压变化而变化。

    静电膜上充的的电压是恒定不变的(假设通用情况――负电)。在定板电压变化时,电极性吸引和排斥的力会牵引静电膜快速的移动,因而推动空气而发声。

    从原理上很明显静电箱有很多长处: 瞬态反映。动盆结构的移动体重量相对很大,包括线圈,盆体,阻尼结构和相位塞。这些重量要远大于他们推动的空气。音乐信号富含大量的瞬态信号,因为锥盆结构的固有惯性,这些信息不可避免的被损失(特别是弱瞬态信号)。 相反,静电膜的厚度跟头发丝差不多,重量极轻,在音乐频率下,基本可以忽略不计。结果可想而知。 失真。因为磁力结构线圈只推动锥盆的顶端或球顶高音的边缘,而盆体不可能是理想刚性结构,各种弯曲会产生声音的失真。相反,静电膜是平面驱动,表面变化而造成的失真可以避免。 谐振。锥盆结构有很多的谐振点(好像铃振)造成一点的声染。但是静电膜在某种程度上好像“浸泡”在空气中,就好像铃铛浸泡在水里,谐振的存在被减少到低不可测。

    作为用家,我试听一些静电箱,自己也用。经验加查阅资料以后有些感觉提供大家交流(以前在音箱无线电坛子里也谈过一些)。因为有个人看法在里面,大家且勿偏听一面之词―――耳朵收货是第一。

    这是不同的发声结构,语言基本很难描述它的声音特色,有机会去听一下是十分值得的。(我如果说“把一直以来蒙在音乐前面的那层‘面纱’掀开了,你知道是什么感觉:)。到底是林青霞好看还是张曼玉好看?大家可以到追星族论坛去问问,打起来不回比这里差。

静电箱的特色普遍来讲是杰出的分辨率---因此会有杰出的场感和空气感(这个词太悬)。常有箱式音箱标榜自己--中高频媲美静电箱就是这个道理。作为用家,我至今对他的水晶一样清澈透明的感觉震撼。配上对声音细节,动态和弱信号再现水平优秀的黑胶唱机,感受真是无以伦比。

    它的设计弱点:低频(大家都知道)和指向性。 低频要达到同样的听觉强度,静电膜必须大量推动空气,设计上来讲需要大的表面积。像QUAD的几款全频率静电箱,像暖气片一样。

图:两款QUAD的名箱――57和63,以及63的20毫米分割振动图。







    QUAD最近还新出了ESL989,和63一样是暖气片型的全频静电箱。63是静电箱的代表作,同时也是全频静电箱缺陷的“代表作”,低频问题仍然比较困扰人,所以认真的用家还是加配低音炮(别跟家庭影院的低音炮混淆,两者的质量标准和价格都不是一个档次的)。常见配63的是如Gradient SW-63。外加低音炮带来另外的问题--音质的一致性极其难以控制,分频也是大问题。989可能解决了不少问题,可我对全频带箱在这个价位下的表现持保留态度。新出的989售价4600英镑,和我买的Innersound Eros在本地的开价一样(4500)。

    另外,大表面失真的问题使它十分难以设计。荷兰AUDIOSTATICS的几款全频箱老是在CEC大展上露头,我没听过,但是看到在网上被很多人骂得半死---音色不好,全频箱出不出低频。近来看到他们进军家庭影院市场,呵呵,聪明。



    比较为大众接受的解决方案是混合式静电箱(媒体上常见的主要是Martin Logan 马田卢根等等)。混合箱的设计一般是静电膜负责中高频,磁动式喇叭单元负责低频 (我用的Innersound 中低频部分还使用了传输线性设计)。注意,静电箱的分频点经常是200Hz到500Hz,不能以传统箱的概念来衡量。

    我主要试听过的是ML 的 Aerius-I, SL-3, 一对二手的 Quest, 还有 Innersound 的 Isis。。 这种设计普遍存在的缺点:低频,一致性。 低频还是老问题:限于成本,减小的箱体,外观(这时候静电膜可以做小点了)和设计的忽视,很多中的价位的ML箱低频仍然偏向于松散,单薄(跟同价位的落地箱比较)。但是请注意不是说很差,而是和同价位的认真设计的箱式音箱比较。另外,低音部分的速度很关键,想想静电膜的瞬态速度---下面跟不上还了得!

    一致性:两种极其不同的发声单元要在音色做到无缝弥和,呵呵,难,这是考功夫的。试想一下听钢琴键流水一样从分频点下面弹到分频点上面 。。。。。。 这是挑选ML时的关键,要多听几款,假如预算不够又听得出来――别买。 图:Innersound的Eros低频部分的设计。



    指向性--高指向,虽然很多现代的静电箱用弧形发声技术(1978年由Roger Sanders发明),但是这个技术会带来一点失真(假想一下,膜再吸进和推出的时候表面积的变化带来的张力/应力变化),当然各家的设计会或多或少解决这样的问题。但是有一点可以肯定---弧度也不能太深。弧形的好处是想当程度上解决了指向性问题―――听音点宽大得多,但是又带来新问题――中高频的二次散射代理相位失真,损失了不少静电箱清晰度高,场感空气感好的特色。 图:Martin Logan 的10万元级 Prodigy, 28–22,000 Hz ± 3dB 水平散射角30度,灵敏度91分贝,混合式,分频点250 Hz



    另外的做法是保持高指向,保证听音位最佳的听觉效果,最大化静电箱的长处。这在Hi-End界也是常用的做法。缺点?… 听音位小到只有60公分宽,离开那里,中高频衰减巨大(听见的基本是二次散射声),无音场定位可言。 (我用的就是…。 反正认真听音乐的时候你也不会呆在别的地方,这也是很多采用这个设计的厂家的借口)。 图:70年代中期Mark Levinson 的 HDQ (售价30000美元),注意,这是上下弧形。



图:Innersound的旗舰 Eros 和 它的妹妹 Isis



    因为条件所限,没有认真听过号角箱,请玩过的大虾来谈谈。另外还有Ribbon箱。

    对听音环境而言,如果是弧形膜,摆位容易得多,但是房间的声学处理要好,也要大。如果是平膜(保持高指向),相对不太敏感环境,但最佳听音位小一些,箱子后面的空间要细细调整。(在店里试过把 Isis 拉出来一米,呵呵。。。。差远了)

    湿度和寿命:常听人说天气的变化会影响静电箱的表现。从原理上讲好像有一定道理――潮湿漏电嘛。其实所有的电压都是主动式的,这方面的影响很小。另外现在的膜一般处理过,传统的看法静电膜寿命短不一定都有效,但是“ML的膜三年要换”流传很广,推测是说它的低价位产品(如Aerius)。膜长期处在几千伏下,如果比较材质不佳,应力会造成负面影响。 但是我没有对比过,也没有得到专业人士的确认,不敢罔下断语。

    功率:注意――-混合式静电箱吃功率的厉害,但不只是那层膜(膜在发声的时候阻抗跌进2欧姆),小心全部升级,出血大了。 静电膜单元是电压敏感电流不敏感的,但是阻抗/频率曲线十分邪,低频端过500欧姆,高频端小于2欧姆,需要控制力较好的功放,功率不必太高,建议中小功率纯甲类石机(胆机噪声偏高)。混合式静电箱,最好双功放 -- 低频单元十分吃电流。实在不行,大功率甲乙类功放还是比较合适的。

    讲了这么多,于缺点和普遍要注意的地方多着重了一些,以免大家吃亏上当。但是相信听过很好设计,认真展示的静电箱,中毒了别怪别人。

注:以前和现在出品静电箱的品牌清单:

Acoustat
Acoustech
André Charlin
Aqua Blue
Audax
Audio Exclusif
Audio4
AudioArt (van Medevoort)
Audiogram
Audiostatic
Audiotec
Benson
Beveridge
Blue Moon
Bopp
Braun
BTM
B&W
Cadence
Cosmostatic
Crown
Dayton Wright
Dennesen Electrostatics
Dynostatic
Electrostatic Research
EPI
ESLAB
ESS
Eurostatics
Final
Fulton
Furnistatic
Goodman
Guiston
Hi-Fi-Stat
Infinity
InnerSound
Janszen
Just Real Music
KLH
KOSS
Leak
Mal Stat
Mark Levinson
Martin Logan
MAS (Metaxas)
Meadow Song Labs
Moss
Naim
PAS
Philco
Pioneer
Primastatic
Pro-ac
Quad
Radio Shack
RTR
SAE
Schilling
Shackman
Solosound
Sombetzki
Sony
Sound Lab
Soundcraftman
Stax
Sunrise Audio
Technique Haute Fidélitè
Threshold
Tolteque
Translator
Univox
Wilson Audio
X-static (初哥甲大作)


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On this page I discuss the Quad ESL speakers and especially the Quad ESL-63 combined with the Gradient SW-63 subwoofers. There are several other pages in this Quad ESL section, press the buttons below and these will pop up. My intention is to provide information on the Quad ESL loudspeakers and also inform you about the improvements that can be made to these excellent products.


The 'Quadfather'

The original Quad ESL, known in these days as the Quad ESL-57 has been elected as the greatest HiFi product of all time by HiFi News (January, 2000). It is hard to argue with such a decision, any HiFi product that after 45 years must be considered to be among the very best earns such praise. The original Quad ESL is still one of the cleanest sounding loudspeakers you can find.
Ken Kessler wrote:
Listening to the original today merely confirms what many suspected: despite its limitations, the Quad ESL delivers some of the most natural, open-sounding mid-band (especially on vocals) you're ever likely to hear. It is a speaker which addresses certain needs, appealing to those who want their ears caressed, not battered. The speaker disappears into the room, leaving you with nothing but... music. Hook up a pair to some small single-ended triode amps, a mint pair of Quad II or better still a Radford MA 15, and you'll just shake your head in wonder at the novelties of current manufacture. It is as stubbornly superior to modern designs in aesthetic, cultural and intellectual terms as a Leica M4 camera is to a polycarbonate SLR, as a 1950 Patek Philippe Calatrava is to a digital watch, as a vintage Vuitton trunk is to a nylon rucksack.




Since 1987 I have been using the newer Quad ESL-63 and even if some still prefer the ESL-57, I think the ESL-63 is an improvement with its better dispersion characteristics, increased dynamic capability and extended low bass. In a small room the older speakers can give a slightly more intimate and detailed sound, but in a larger room or at higher level with large scale music the newer speakers wins. With some tweaking of the ESL-63 the ESL-57 is left behind in almost all areas, and it is also an easier load for the amplifier. The ESL-57 can make some semiconductor amplifiers sound very bad and it is recommended to partner them with a tube amplifier or one of Quad's own amplifiers.

I will not make a long description of the Quad electrostatic speakers (a technical page is coming...), as I think there is sufficient information about them on other sites, see the links at the bottom of this page. It is my opinion that the quality of these speakers, both the old ESL and the newer ESL-63, are hard to match to ANY other speaker. They may be (are!) beaten by several other designs when it comes to quantity, but not in quality of reproduction. This is of course due to their electrostatic nature, which makes it hard to get very high sound levels with a diaphragm area suitable for ordinary rooms. Some manufacturers have tried to make really large ESL designs in order to get higher levels and deeper bass, for example Metaxas and  Sound Lab. I have not heard either Metaxas or Sound Lab, and although I am sure they sound great in a very large room, I think it will be difficult to get the exact soundstage and homogenic sound typical to Quad ESL in a more ordinary room (15-30 m2). This is because you must sit quite far away from a large speaker to avoid the interferences between the different parts of the diaphragm, which causes an uneven frequency response and also gives a radiation pattern that is hard to control.



The Quad ESL-63 takes the performance advantages of electrostatic loudspeakers a stage further. The ideal loudspeaker for stereo reproduction is a single point source reproducing all frequencies. Loudspeaker engineers have been trying to develop one for more than half a century. If it is not possible to produce a point source loudspeaker, can we instead make a loudspeaker that to an observer behaves like one? Imagine a theoretically ideal point source loudspeaker radiating sound pressure waves and then imagine a plane in the air a short distance from the source and at right angles to the direction of propagation. If the air at the plane is made visible in some magical way, we will see concentric waves radiating out from the center just as they do when a stone is thrown into a still pool. If we substitute an electrostatic loudspeaker membrane for the plane in the air, make it move in exactly the same way as the air on our imaginary plane and suppress the imaginary source, the results to an observer positioned on the far side will be identical to those from the ideal source.





The Quad ESL-63 does exactly this. An ingenious arrangement of concentric electrodes fed by a sequential delay line produces a sound pressure pattern that is an exact replica of that from an ideal source placed 30cm behind the plane of the diaphragm. The ESL-63 is a totally homogenous sound source, phase true and aperiodic, with a frequency response, both on and off axis, quite free from the irregularities that are inevitable with any multi-way loudspeaker system (and also with large diaphragm planar speakers) . It has a very well controlled directivity characteristic with the result that there is no stereo hot-spot (not entirely true, but less critical than with other planar speakers). Since the loudspeakers can be placed right up to the side walls the stereo stage can be very wide. The result is a loudspeaker of unsurpassed accuracy, which with the right programme material will produce a more realistic and satisfactory illusion of a live musical performance than has been possible hitherto. Some manufacturers have chosen to make a curved membrane (for instance Martin Logan) in order to control the directivity characteristic, and in the horizontal plane it probably works, but in the vertical plane the problem still exist. Probably there will also be some distortion due to the different force needed to move the diaphragm backwards relative to the forwards move. Still Martin Logan's ESL panels sound good, but the hybrid construction of most of their speakers is a more severe problem. Even if you could make a box with no coloration (which you can't, I discuss this on my 'Opinion' page), the different radiation pattern of a monopole (bass) and a dipole (ESL) makes it impossible to get a linear frequency response on more than ONE distance. The obvious solution to this problem (if you must use a box) would be to use active filtering with the possibility to change the bass level.

Despite it's ingenious design the Quad ESL-63 is not a perfect speaker though, because you need to get lower in the bass region to produce a really convincing soundstage. Everyone with experience from high quality subwoofers can describe the effect these have on the soundstage, even when no low bass seems to be present, for instance with an acoustic guitar recorded in a church hall. The lowest frequency of a guitar is around 80 Hz, so adding a subwoofer for the 20-40 Hz region should not make a difference, but it sure does. My theory is that the transients excite room resonances with lower frequency than the 80 Hz. If you have studied Fourier analysis, you know that a perfect impulse (very short) includes ALL frequencies. The difference in soundstage is apparent even with female a Cappella singing, this is more difficult to explain, but maybe it is the interference between sounds bouncing around in the room that does it. There is a project presently going on with ultrasonic transducers creating sound with the use of interference, so my explanation is maybe not so far out. Another explanation could be the recorded background noise, which certainly adds low frequencies, and maybe helps to define the room information. As the Quad ESL-63 does not give much output below 40 Hz, there is a problem, but a few years back the Finnish company Gradient finished the Gradient SW-63 dipole subwoofers. These take over from 115 Hz and down to around 25 Hz with reasonable output and uses active filtering and an additional amplifier for the subwoofers. The filter unit also compensates for the 6 dB/octave loss (cancellation from the rear at low frequencies) due to the dipole construction. When my previous subwoofer Audio Pro B2-50 broke, I thought that I could live with the Quad ESL-63 on their own while the B2-50 was repaired. Within a week or so I realized that it was not possible, the deep bass was really missing. As the time is limited and I had been interested in the Gradient SW-63 for a while, I bought a couple of SW-63 demonstration samples at a reasonable price. At first I used them with my old Luxman SQ507x, which is not really suited for driving subwoofers of this kind, but still managed to get them in action. The first impression was that the bass was thin, no matter at what level  the subwoofers were running, but quite quickly I got the feeling that it was real bass, no box-sound, no boom, and the imaging was superb. The SW-63 does not dig as deep in the bass as the B2-50, but the freedom of coloration compensated that, so I was not really missing the deep notes. The B2-50 I used from 40 Hz and down with the ESL-63s running as fullrange speakers with no filtering, since the filter supplied with the subwoofer was not up to my standard. The SW-63 I used with the supplied high-pass filter. This filter was clearly better, but I noticed almost immediately that the magic was gone in the midrange and treble area, so I tried running the ESL-63 without high-pass filter, and it worked quite nicely. The magic was back, but with less detail, as the Quads definitely benefits from removing the lowest frequencies, but the coloration from the filter was too obvious so I ended up not using the high-pass filter. This gives a 3 dB rise in the frequency response in the region 50-100 Hz (I have measured it), but the subwoofer level was easier to set. I do not recommend this solution, but you can always try it if you want a fat bass. Later I replaced the Luxman with a Rotel RB980BX, which is better suited for driving subwoofers. There are of course better alternatives, but this was what I could afford and it works alright with the 4 ohm connection. When I measured the speakers I noticed that the ESL-63 and SW-63 were 90 degrees out of phase at 115 Hz, no matter how they were connected. This was not a surprise really, as the the low-pass filter for the SW-63 is third-order, and the high-pass filter is second-order. To get them in phase the high-pass filter should be first-order or third-order. I measured a little and placed a high quality polypropylene capacitor in series with the main amplifier input, giving a first-order 115 Hz high-pass filter. The result was AMAZING! The message to all ESL-63/SW-63 users is, DO IT!! Suddenly it was very easy to find correct phase and adjust the level. The bass was a lot more homogenic and full of nuances and flavors, I actually lowered the subwoofer level quite much, with the interesting result of a more firm and heavy bass. The midrange and treble is now exceptional with no coloration from the filter and ESL-63s free of the low frequencies which improves their performance a lot. The mechanical rigidity of the Quads could be better (it shall be in the new ESL-988 and ESL-989) but with a lot of tension removed as they do not have to perform the low frequencies, this is now a minor problem. Apart from the filter tweak described above, I have also altered the value of a couple of capacitors and resitances in the Gradient low-pass filter in order to get a deeper bass. This is another success, they now deliver almost 20 Hz with reasonable level, breathing even more air into the soundstage and producing a low frequency response of an unmatched quality (maybe Audio Artistry could be a challenge). Driving the SW-63 into the 20 Hz region means of course a lower maximum SPL, but I think the quality compensates for the loss in quantity. The tweaks above and a few other tweaks will be described on the page 'Quad Tweaks'. I have also altered the input impedance of the Gradient filter from 22k to 500k and if you use tube amplification I recommend this alteration, the sound opens up considerably when the output stage is not loaded as hard as with 22k. The performance of the Quad ESL-63 with the tweaks described on the tweak page together with the Gradient SW-63 is really first class and at a reasonable price, second hand units are amazingly cheap compared to other lesser speaker systems. The midrange is of a quality that I am sure would make even the most fanatic Quad ESL-57 owner happy. One of the good things with this system is that it is an extremely neighbor friendly fullrange system. The dipole construction means that a lot less bass is radiated in the room, and it also focuses the energy on the listener, making it more sensitive than the stated 86dB/W indicates. It is not necessary to play as loud as with ordinary speakers, the clarity of the system is extraordinary and you get the sense of dynamics at much lower volume than with monopole speakers.
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On this page I discuss the Quad ESL speakers and especially the Quad ESL-63 combined with the Gradient SW-63 subwoofers. There are several other pages in this Quad ESL section, press the buttons below and these will pop up. My intention is to provide information on the Quad ESL loudspeakers and also inform you about the improvements that can be made to these excellent products.


The 'Quadfather'

The original Quad ESL, known in these days as the Quad ESL-57 has been elected as the greatest HiFi product of all time by HiFi News (January, 2000). It is hard to argue with such a decision, any HiFi product that after 45 years must be considered to be among the very best earns such praise. The original Quad ESL is still one of the cleanest sounding loudspeakers you can find.
Ken Kessler wrote:
Listening to the original today merely confirms what many suspected: despite its limitations, the Quad ESL delivers some of the most natural, open-sounding mid-band (especially on vocals) you're ever likely to hear. It is a speaker which addresses certain needs, appealing to those who want their ears caressed, not battered. The speaker disappears into the room, leaving you with nothing but... music. Hook up a pair to some small single-ended triode amps, a mint pair of Quad II or better still a Radford MA 15, and you'll just shake your head in wonder at the novelties of current manufacture. It is as stubbornly superior to modern designs in aesthetic, cultural and intellectual terms as a Leica M4 camera is to a polycarbonate SLR, as a 1950 Patek Philippe Calatrava is to a digital watch, as a vintage Vuitton trunk is to a nylon rucksack.




Since 1987 I have been using the newer Quad ESL-63 and even if some still prefer the ESL-57, I think the ESL-63 is an improvement with its better dispersion characteristics, increased dynamic capability and extended low bass. In a small room the older speakers can give a slightly more intimate and detailed sound, but in a larger room or at higher level with large scale music the newer speakers wins. With some tweaking of the ESL-63 the ESL-57 is left behind in almost all areas, and it is also an easier load for the amplifier. The ESL-57 can make some semiconductor amplifiers sound very bad and it is recommended to partner them with a tube amplifier or one of Quad's own amplifiers.

I will not make a long description of the Quad electrostatic speakers (a technical page is coming...), as I think there is sufficient information about them on other sites, see the links at the bottom of this page. It is my opinion that the quality of these speakers, both the old ESL and the newer ESL-63, are hard to match to ANY other speaker. They may be (are!) beaten by several other designs when it comes to quantity, but not in quality of reproduction. This is of course due to their electrostatic nature, which makes it hard to get very high sound levels with a diaphragm area suitable for ordinary rooms. Some manufacturers have tried to make really large ESL designs in order to get higher levels and deeper bass, for example Metaxas and Sound Lab. I have not heard either Metaxas or Sound Lab, and although I am sure they sound great in a very large room, I think it will be difficult to get the exact soundstage and homogenic sound typical to Quad ESL in a more ordinary room (15-30 m2). This is because you must sit quite far away from a large speaker to avoid the interferences between the different parts of the diaphragm, which causes an uneven frequency response and also gives a radiation pattern that is hard to control.



The Quad ESL-63 takes the performance advantages of electrostatic loudspeakers a stage further. The ideal loudspeaker for stereo reproduction is a single point source reproducing all frequencies. Loudspeaker engineers have been trying to develop one for more than half a century. If it is not possible to produce a point source loudspeaker, can we instead make a loudspeaker that to an observer behaves like one? Imagine a theoretically ideal point source loudspeaker radiating sound pressure waves and then imagine a plane in the air a short distance from the source and at right angles to the direction of propagation. If the air at the plane is made visible in some magical way, we will see concentric waves radiating out from the center just as they do when a stone is thrown into a still pool. If we substitute an electrostatic loudspeaker membrane for the plane in the air, make it move in exactly the same way as the air on our imaginary plane and suppress the imaginary source, the results to an observer positioned on the far side will be identical to those from the ideal source.





The Quad ESL-63 does exactly this. An ingenious arrangement of concentric electrodes fed by a sequential delay line produces a sound pressure pattern that is an exact replica of that from an ideal source placed 30cm behind the plane of the diaphragm. The ESL-63 is a totally homogenous sound source, phase true and aperiodic, with a frequency response, both on and off axis, quite free from the irregularities that are inevitable with any multi-way loudspeaker system (and also with large diaphragm planar speakers) . It has a very well controlled directivity characteristic with the result that there is no stereo hot-spot (not entirely true, but less critical than with other planar speakers). Since the loudspeakers can be placed right up to the side walls the stereo stage can be very wide. The result is a loudspeaker of unsurpassed accuracy, which with the right programme material will produce a more realistic and satisfactory illusion of a live musical performance than has been possible hitherto. Some manufacturers have chosen to make a curved membrane (for instance Martin Logan) in order to control the directivity characteristic, and in the horizontal plane it probably works, but in the vertical plane the problem still exist. Probably there will also be some distortion due to the different force needed to move the diaphragm backwards relative to the forwards move. Still Martin Logan's ESL panels sound good, but the hybrid construction of most of their speakers is a more severe problem. Even if you could make a box with no coloration (which you can't, I discuss this on my 'Opinion' page), the different radiation pattern of a monopole (bass) and a dipole (ESL) makes it impossible to get a linear frequency response on more than ONE distance. The obvious solution to this problem (if you must use a box) would be to use active filtering with the possibility to change the bass level.

Despite it's ingenious design the Quad ESL-63 is not a perfect speaker though, because you need to get lower in the bass region to produce a really convincing soundstage. Everyone with experience from high quality subwoofers can describe the effect these have on the soundstage, even when no low bass seems to be present, for instance with an acoustic guitar recorded in a church hall. The lowest frequency of a guitar is around 80 Hz, so adding a subwoofer for the 20-40 Hz region should not make a difference, but it sure does. My theory is that the transients excite room resonances with lower frequency than the 80 Hz. If you have studied Fourier analysis, you know that a perfect impulse (very short) includes ALL frequencies. The difference in soundstage is apparent even with female a Cappella singing, this is more difficult to explain, but maybe it is the interference between sounds bouncing around in the room that does it. There is a project presently going on with ultrasonic transducers creating sound with the use of interference, so my explanation is maybe not so far out. Another explanation could be the recorded background noise, which certainly adds low frequencies, and maybe helps to define the room information. As the Quad ESL-63 does not give much output below 40 Hz, there is a problem, but a few years back the Finnish company Gradient finished the Gradient SW-63 dipole subwoofers. These take over from 115 Hz and down to around 25 Hz with reasonable output and uses active filtering and an additional amplifier for the subwoofers. The filter unit also compensates for the 6 dB/octave loss (cancellation from the rear at low frequencies) due to the dipole construction. When my previous subwoofer Audio Pro B2-50 broke, I thought that I could live with the Quad ESL-63 on their own while the B2-50 was repaired. Within a week or so I realized that it was not possible, the deep bass was really missing. As the time is limited and I had been interested in the Gradient SW-63 for a while, I bought a couple of SW-63 demonstration samples at a reasonable price. At first I used them with my old Luxman SQ507x, which is not really suited for driving subwoofers of this kind, but still managed to get them in action. The first impression was that the bass was thin, no matter at what level the subwoofers were running, but quite quickly I got the feeling that it was real bass, no box-sound, no boom, and the imaging was superb. The SW-63 does not dig as deep in the bass as the B2-50, but the freedom of coloration compensated that, so I was not really missing the deep notes. The B2-50 I used from 40 Hz and down with the ESL-63s running as fullrange speakers with no filtering, since the filter supplied with the subwoofer was not up to my standard. The SW-63 I used with the supplied high-pass filter. This filter was clearly better, but I noticed almost immediately that the magic was gone in the midrange and treble area, so I tried running the ESL-63 without high-pass filter, and it worked quite nicely. The magic was back, but with less detail, as the Quads definitely benefits from removing the lowest frequencies, but the coloration from the filter was too obvious so I ended up not using the high-pass filter. This gives a 3 dB rise in the frequency response in the region 50-100 Hz (I have measured it), but the subwoofer level was easier to set. I do not recommend this solution, but you can always try it if you want a fat bass. Later I replaced the Luxman with a Rotel RB980BX, which is better suited for driving subwoofers. There are of course better alternatives, but this was what I could afford and it works alright with the 4 ohm connection. When I measured the speakers I noticed that the ESL-63 and SW-63 were 90 degrees out of phase at 115 Hz, no matter how they were connected. This was not a surprise really, as the the low-pass filter for the SW-63 is third-order, and the high-pass filter is second-order. To get them in phase the high-pass filter should be first-order or third-order. I measured a little and placed a high quality polypropylene capacitor in series with the main amplifier input, giving a first-order 115 Hz high-pass filter. The result was AMAZING! The message to all ESL-63/SW-63 users is, DO IT!! Suddenly it was very easy to find correct phase and adjust the level. The bass was a lot more homogenic and full of nuances and flavors, I actually lowered the subwoofer level quite much, with the interesting result of a more firm and heavy bass. The midrange and treble is now exceptional with no coloration from the filter and ESL-63s free of the low frequencies which improves their performance a lot. The mechanical rigidity of the Quads could be better (it shall be in the new ESL-988 and ESL-989) but with a lot of tension removed as they do not have to perform the low frequencies, this is now a minor problem. Apart from the filter tweak described above, I have also altered the value of a couple of capacitors and resitances in the Gradient low-pass filter in order to get a deeper bass. This is another success, they now deliver almost 20 Hz with reasonable level, breathing even more air into the soundstage and producing a low frequency response of an unmatched quality (maybe Audio Artistry could be a challenge). Driving the SW-63 into the 20 Hz region means of course a lower maximum SPL, but I think the quality compensates for the loss in quantity. The tweaks above and a few other tweaks will be described on the page 'Quad Tweaks'. I have also altered the input impedance of the Gradient filter from 22k to 500k and if you use tube amplification I recommend this alteration, the sound opens up considerably when the output stage is not loaded as hard as with 22k. The performance of the Quad ESL-63 with the tweaks described on the tweak page together with the Gradient SW-63 is really first class and at a reasonable price, second hand units are amazingly cheap compared to other lesser speaker systems. The midrange is of a quality that I am sure would make even the most fanatic Quad ESL-57 owner happy. One of the good things with this system is that it is an extremely neighbor friendly fullrange system. The dipole construction means that a lot less bass is radiated in the room, and it also focuses the energy on the listener, making it more sensitive than the stated 86dB/W indicates. It is not necessary to play as loud as with ordinary speakers, the clarity of the system is extraordinary and you get the sense of dynamics at much lower volume than with monopole speakers.
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内部似乎比较简单,而且用料求其,可看到PCB上涂了一层好象玻璃胶一样的东东,不知道有什么用


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香港有一发烧音响代理老板私人收藏ESL57, 自己欣赏. 他代理: FM, Wilson Audio, AR, Spectral....
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内部似乎比较简单
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请ATP兄回答一下吧,他的ESL57下雨天打火,急得他到处发贴求救。
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hb.-007 在 2005-12-2 14:31:24 发表的内容
拆开背面板的内部结构

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拆开背面板的内部结构

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hb.-007 在 2005-12-2 14:31:24 发表的内容
拆开背面板的内部结构

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