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★★★★★世界上最好的确CD/SACD/DVD-AUDIO播放机! [复制链接]

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Kerry,

The circuit vibration is also a negative factor which was also addressed in the UX-1s brilliant enclosure design. But this is not exactly the reason why.

The real question is how things are handled from the very beginning. Obviously, error correction can not perfectly correct missing information, especially when it's random. Given that you have a compression algorithm, for example, it will look to re-create the original according to its pre-set values. It will not cover for missing bits due to transport vibrations. There are adaptive EC engines, but again, not as good as the real thing.

The UX-1 also uses x10 speed and large SDRAM memory buffers just like the Denon does. As I mentioned, the Denon Digital Signal Processing (as far as all audio formats are concerned) is the SAME as the DSP in the UX-1. This provides the only reasonable explanation for the UX-1 superiority - its VRDS-NEO transport from which, apparently, very little or nothing is missing.

The APL Denon is a world class player. Especially the very latest version is probably the best digital out there, cost no object. It just outperformed EMM Labs (Meitner) on a recent shootout in San Diego again. This time it beat it not only with CD, but with SACD too. Everyone knows that EMM is considered world's best SACD reproduction available. Detailed outcome report is being currently formulated. Stay tuned!

I said the NWO-1 makes the Denon sounding as a $500 player. Well, although it is a bit of exaggeration, the NWO-1 does sound a lot better than the latest Denon, and at $16K, it better be.  What the UX-1 does is a magical detail, air and extension resulting in crystal clear sound that is non glared and extremely musical. The soundstage is huge and instruments are much more defined in space. Like I said; it's a magic to me too. If the APL Denon is one of the World’s best (if not the best), then where the NWO-1 stands?  

Well, Angelina is still crying a lot, even more than before. The Doctor gave us a different anti-gas medicine which does not seem to help much. It looks like we will need to try a different formula. Sorry I don't drink JD, but the Scotch is doing a great job so far.  Just kidding!  

BTW, no silver Denon yet???

Regards,
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Pete Watt



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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:45 pm    Post subject: APL Denon vs. APL UX-1  

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When Alex referred to the latest version of the APL Denon as "probably the best digital out there", I'm proud to say he was referring to my player. It is the one we used in last Saturday's shoot-out with the Meitner DCC2, which I hosted, and included other members of the San Diego Music and Audio Guild. Although detailed results will not be posted until all the participants comments are received, I would like to provide at least a brief preview.

First of all, the DCC2 was accompanied by the latest version of Meitner's CDSD transport and was directly connected to my Spectron Musician III Class D amp. My APL Denon 3910, also directly connected to the amp, contained all of Alex's standard mods, plus the latest version of his upsampler board (not yet generally released by APL) and a custom mod providing 6 AKM DACs per channel. The result was as Alex described in his latest post: all the participants agreed that the APL Denon beat the Meitner on SACD across the board, and in almost every listening category on PCM (a few members felt the Meitner's slightly leaner tonality sounded more natural, but still overall preferred the Denon).

As Alex said, and I think we all know, "the Denon is a world class player". And although I have not heard the NWO-1, I'm sure it is every bit as outstanding as everyone says it is. I do object, however, to statements posted on this site (which Alex properly lables as exaggerations) that the NWO-1 makes the Denon sound like a "$500 player". (I'm sure Ed Meitner would be even more pained to know that his $19,000 combo had been beaten by a $500 player!) The fact is that the APL Denon is just as much a world class player as it was two weeks ago. And the fact that the the NWO-1 sounds even better should come as no surprise, considering that it costs almost $10,000 more.

I think what we are seeing here is the success of Alex's two tier strategy, i.e. provide state of the art players at two vastly different price points. While the obvious superiority of the the NWO-1 is a given, whether it is worth the additional cost is a question of value that can only be resolved by the subjective tastes of each audiophile.

For myself, I plan to stay and grow with the APL Denon. It does a superb job in my configuration which I hope to make into the best $15,000 system possible. I take some comfort in the fact that all the componentry in the two APL players is identical with four exceptions: the NWO-1 has 2 tubes in its analog stage (instead of just one); it has 10 AKM DACs per channel (instead of my 6); it has a linear power suppy; and it has the world class VRDS-NEO transport. Of the four, I consider the last two the most important differences. Although I can't do anything about the transport in the Denon, I definitely plan to replace the Denon's switched power supply with Alex's new linear power supply and transformer when this upgrade (now actively under development) becomes available.

Sorry for the long rambling dialogue, but I think it only underscores how fortunate we are to have the outstanding options that Alex makes available for us decide on and even debate.
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这家伙更新太快,老是人家机子拿回来听了2,3个月,他说又有改近了.所以还是等等.
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前苏联,东欧的天才很多,炮手也不少啊,民主德国以前田径比赛用兴奋剂的情况超过大多数国家。
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APL3910在上周的盛迭哥音乐与声学学会的对比试听中以压倒多数超过Meitner DCC2,这次不仅仅是CD而是SACS,世界人都知道Meitner DCC2是最好的SACD播放机.
但是最新的APL NWO-1使得APL 3910听起来象一台500美元的机器...
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你要是上过学就知道苏联教育水平只高远在美国上,美国是靠钱堆起来的. 数学,物理天才比比皆是. 你学过高等数学应该知道"季米多维奇"习题集吧? 国内什么清华北大编的破题比起来差太远了而且都是超人家的.
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APL3910在上周的圣迭哥音乐与声学学会的对比试听中以压倒多数超过Meitner DCC2,这次不仅仅是CD而是SACS,世界人都知道Meitner DCC2是最好的SACD播放机.
但是最新的APL NWO-1使得APL 3910听起来象一台500美元的机器...
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你要是上过学就知道苏联教育水平只高远在美国上,美国是靠钱堆起来的. 数学,物理天才比比皆是. 你学过高等数学应该知道"季米多维奇"习题集吧? 国内什么清华北大编的破题比起来差太远了而且都是抄袭人家的.
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苏联解体后中国只收罗了些二流前苏联科学家,就使的中国在运载火箭,核潜艇,飞机设计方面技术和水平前进了30年.
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水平高呀,所以改进快呀! 真是天才呀,前苏联,东欧地区还是有很多天才的.
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