弱弱地问：为什么那么在乎定位和声场呢 [复制链接]

半温不火 在 2004-2-26 16:23:44 发表的内容 [ 还原信息量的多少不影响乐曲的理解程度。 音乐的理解最基础的是从调性、调式、曲式以及主题与副主题之间的对比中产生的，以上这些只要有旋律都能做到呢。音乐学院中上作品分析课时用的是磁带+普通收音机噢：）

这里也不能忽略演绎者本身及演绎的过程，不同的人有不同的演绎方式和诠释手法，如果是这样的话，看曲谱也可以欣赏音乐的喔。（外行人话，莫怪莫怪呵）

什么也没说

乐队的摆位，为什么小提琴要在前面，定音鼓在在最后，肯定是有道理的。当然，这些摆位也不是绝对的，这里还有一个听音习惯的问题，dx们从最开始认识古典岳的时候就是这样摆位了，要是一下所有乐器都来一个乾坤大挪移！肯定会觉得很别扭了，就像你认识一个人，从一开始就是用左手吃饭的，突然一天他换成右手了你觉得不习惯一样。

KENTRYFO 在 2004-2-27 8:39:39 发表的内容 markh 在 2004-2-26 20:17:10 发表的内容 音乐是起源于祖先为远距离传递信息而设定有规律的节拍，最易打动人的应该是音乐本身的节奏，因此，重播系统中，能正确反映音乐节奏的（这往往又是最难做好的），已经可以使我们欣赏感悟音乐内在的神髓了。而音场定位又是判断一套立体声HIFI系统质素的基础，正确的音场当然会让我们对重播的效果更为深刻。 以此观念投入hifi器材的开发，怪不得您的电源线犹如“TANGO”高手！！！HI！！！！！！TKS!!!！！可就是事实已经说明此观念在现有的电声系统中的确是难能可贵，吃正了米路！对现今的电声系统，最缺乏的，的确就是能量传输的节奏和反应！！！这一点，在古典音乐的重播中尤其重要。

谢谢兄台的褒奖，让我们一起进步！

jwm 兄，madog兄的鳥語使鳥兒也看得不大懂，因為整篇充滿了錯字和別字，每一個句子都有一個以上的文法錯處，語法原全沒有鳥味，最多只可說是很像鳥語而己。[/quote]


I am a Chinese MA!! hehehaha...........
and I don't know how to type Chinese MA ...........................hahahaha......

I know you from Hong Kong must write and speak English very well ???

If you have foundme grammatical mistake, please correct me and I will be
much appreciated, BUT

YOU HAVE TO WRITE ME BACK IN ENGLISH............

Xe Xe Lo...............................[/quote]

Dear Madog,

It is my pleasure to communicate with you in English. I must have hurt your ego and pride by criticising your poor English standard but  most unfortunately this is the cold hard fact. If you are unable to type Chinese, why don"t  you  try the writing recognition software . I strongly advise you to buy a writing tablet and  start communicating with the guys in 168  in our own language. From my experience, more than 90% of the guys in 168 are unable to communicate in English, so, what is the point to convey your ideas with someone in a language they simply do not comprehend ?

定位关乎活生感，和音场都是为现场感服务的：）会让你有美妙的感觉，但我同意他们不是最主要的，主要的是旋律。

KCL 在 2004-2-28 2:03:13 发表的内容 jwm 兄，madog兄的鳥語使鳥兒也看得不大懂，因為整篇充滿了錯字和別字，每一個句子都有一個以上的文法錯處，語法原全沒有鳥味，最多只可說是很像鳥語而己。

I am a Chinese MA!! hehehaha...........
and I don't know how to type Chinese MA ...........................hahahaha......

I know you from Hong Kong must write and speak English very well ???

If you have foundme grammatical mistake, please correct me and I will be
much appreciated, BUT

YOU HAVE TO WRITE ME BACK IN ENGLISH............

Xe Xe Lo...............................[/quote]

Dear Madog,

It is my pleasure to communicate with you in English. I must have hurt your ego and pride by criticising your poor English standard but  most unfortunately this is the cold hard fact. If you are unable to type Chinese, why don"t  you  try the writing recognition software . I strongly advise you to buy a writing tablet and  start communicating with the guys in 168  in our own language. From my experience, more than 90% of the guys in 168 are unable to communicate in English, so, what is the point to convey your ideas with someone in a language they simply do not comprehend ?

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Thanks your understanding. I think I'm too old to learn Chinese writing now
due to many reasons because I use English everyday and have no much
spare time to learn anymore.

It doesn't hurt me at all, don't worry and I don't take this for granted.

However,every time I write to this forum was in such a hurry so you might
find my English writing is more like spoken English.

This is true as I think this will save my time. I always use the most simple
structure so that even for those who are not keen in English would
be able to understand

In this case, one if they want ed to get my experience (it may not always
correct) one should try to learn from it. Sorry I'm being big nose. However
I will appreciate for any different idea from others. This is to share our
experience and knowledge.

You are welcome to show me your different view either technically or
grammatically ( Not other subjects accepts rather than these) so that
everyone would benefit from it. My point is simple, I would like share my
experience with other fellow here and I had apologised several time in this
forum to guys that I am sorry that I can't type Chinese.

Furthermore, I am not writing English literature nor I am a scholar in English
and I am just a common people.

By the way, buddy,would you mind telling what is your major in college or
university ?

At last, you didn't hurt me at all but on the other hand, I feel lemon from
your last post. Hope I am wrong.

    音场,定位是器材发烧友玩法.有些烧友在评价某些器材时经常会这样讲:此器材营造的声场又宽又深,让你总觉得音乐是从墙外来的;此器材的定位很好,闭上眼睛,能数出有几把小提琴在发声.到音乐厅听现场音乐会,无论怎么听,也感觉不到音乐是从墙外来的,闭上眼睛也数不出有几把琴在发声.所以,只要好听,该有的细节都有了,那就是好声.没必要克意的追求过于音响性的音场,定位.

kick 在 2004-2-29 9:44:59 发表的内容 一套系统的声音要感觉到音乐是流淌出来的才对，是吗？

是的!坐在家里听音乐有身临其镜的感觉不是更好吗?

koo 在 2004-2-29 8:58:38 发表的内容 如果那么讲究定位，不要到音乐厅听音乐了。因为坐在左边和坐在右边乐队的定位都不一样，音乐不能听了。只有在中间有限几个位才是定位好的。但事实是好的音乐会连乐队后面的坐位也坐满了人。

OH，YES：）