channel classics唱片的乐评 [复制链接]

赞美一个公司和录音，和只赞美一个公司和录音，有着本质的区别，请狗屁枪手们注意

另外，SACD的世界太大了，一个小小的CC和一个五音怎能代表？想给168的群众们洗脑，你们两位还不如去骗骗胡同、弄堂里的老太太们吧

支持sacdfun，scfan  

两位枪手少对他人指指点点  论坛被你们搞的乌烟瘴气

原帖由 scfan 于 2009-1-12 12:18:00 发表 两位狗屁枪手碰头了，很狗屁热闹，大家快去抢购吧哈哈

对不起，本人删除所有与scfan的争论和吵架，怀疑他是俺失去联系多年的一位上海好友，知名的音响玩家。如果是真的，这可能创造了21世纪最大的误会，就好像是布什错把巴基斯坦的穆沙拉夫当成本拉登了，举刀一刻，突然二人喊道：“啊！布什大哥”，应到：“天哪！穆沙拉夫兄弟”，看！这有多尴尬。看来，马甲有时候也会惹事，彻底晕倒！正在与这位朋友核实中。即便不是，还是道歉一下本人的过激反击言行，今后无论遇到再疯狂的挑衅，一定心如止水去待之。这个世界离奇的事情太多了，呵呵呵呵呵！！！

原帖由 channelchina 于 2009-1-12 11:58:00 发表 [quote] 原帖由 chrisspher 于 2009-1-12 11:33:00 发表 还是汉斯力克对音乐的诠释最好，如今无人可以突破。

汉斯立克怎么说？

原帖由 桂猪 于 2009-1-12 16:29:00 发表 原帖由 channelchina 于 2009-1-12 11:58:00 发表 [quote] 原帖由 chrisspher 于 2009-1-12 11:33:00 发表 还是汉斯力克对音乐的诠释最好，如今无人可以突破。 汉斯立克怎么说？

为了避免翻译走样，请看这段摘录：
Notes on HanslickHanslick is commonly regarded as advocating an intellectualized form of aesthetic pleasure. Hanslick does not deny that listeners may be emotionally moved by listening to music, but he regards such feelings as a by-product of the music's beauty. Good music is beautiful, and in apprehending this beauty the listener may well be deeply moved.
Hanslick regards the purpose of aesthetic beauty to to be the gratification of the listener. ("the beautiful exists for the gratification of an observer") Yet Hanslick argues that beauty is independent of human emotion. ("The beautiful is and remains beautiful though it arouse no emotion whatever".) Moreover, beauty is not just independent of an observer's emotional state, beauty is altogether independent of the observer.
This view contrasts notably with the views of sages throughout the eons who have argued that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." This viewpoint is best illustrated, not by considering differences of opinion among people, but by contrasting the views of humans with other animals. Does a robin not take delight in eating a raw worm? Does the heart of a panda not jump for joy when spying a bamboo forest? Does a fly not regard dung with relish? Most writers have argued that each animal has its own criteria for what constitutes "beauty".
In what sense can we imagine a musical work being "beautiful" without understanding that it is a human notion of "beauty" that grounds this characterization? Hanslick would answer this question by saying that it is not human emotions which tell us what is beautiful, but human imagination -- "the organ of pure contemplation". Indeed, since Hanslick regards beauty as independent of humans, it follows that Hanslick's notion of the imagination is transcendental, and does not rely on the existence of human beings per se.
关于汉斯力克的介绍很多，也可以看看这里http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_Hanslick 或更早的拉莫伦音乐和汉斯力克之后的梅耶贝尔，很有益的，不属于枯燥的学术读物。

原帖由 hanson681 于 2009-1-12 12:24:00 发表 支持sacdfun，scfan   两位枪手少对他人指指点点  论坛被你们搞的乌烟瘴气

请你看看channelchina的帖子 再看看scfan和sacdfun的帖子，是谁在这里制造乌烟瘴气。做人要厚道，拍马屁也先看看，都拍到脚底板去了。

原帖由 scfan 于 2009-1-12 12:22:00 发表 赞美一个公司和录音，和只赞美一个公司和录音，有着本质的区别，请狗屁枪手们注意 另外，SACD的世界太大了，一个小小的CC和一个五音怎能代表？想给168的群众们洗脑，你们两位还不如去骗骗胡同、弄堂里的老太太们吧

你带路，俺这就跟你去

兄（或者姐）请放心，你没犯世纪最大的错误，俺不是朱纬

吵架没意思，只要兄（或者姐）不是真帮人做枪手就行。俺也不修改帖子了，以前说过的不好听的话，就当俺放狗屁，大家看过笑过

以后多谈音乐，少吵架。自勉

废话少说，Channel发蓝光，咱开始止损，就这么回事。有关逻辑在sa-cd.net上我说的
够清楚了。再来一次两个format的战争，难道sacd vs dvd audio或者Bluray vs HD DVD
还不够说明问题？

就象炒股一样，你知道利空了，就不能再投入。另外，到时我也不会再叫sacdfun了。
从LD到DVD的转型咱走过。不需要你告诉我。

高级音响的下一波不会是什么Bluray Audio（参考为什么DVD Audio会失败），咱
不相信那个。

Bluray Audio对应于DVD-Audio没有本质上的提高，仍然是24Bit/192KHz的PCM，只不过它把DVD-Audio只能支持2声道的24Bit/192KHz提高到了7个声道都是24Bit/192KHz