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看云的人 - 2007/8/8 11:00:00
出于个人的听音喜好及视觉的谐调和性价比因素,俺妥协地选择了贵族脚架,向版主购买正在发运了.在此感谢楼上众网友的真诚帮助关心.
杭州一少 - 2007/8/8 21:58:00
还没下定决心玩超5 ;P
gift168 - 2007/8/16 15:04:00
羡慕!
灼焰寒冰 - 2007/8/27 22:44:00
请问PM14SA和naim nait5i哪个推hl5好？
WARMSUN - 2007/8/28 15:26:00
请问有没有朋友知道目前（07年）广州那家音响行是 雨后 的经销商或代理？ 我想买。。。。
在网上就是搜索不到啊！:(
novak - 2007/8/28 15:49:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]WARMSUN[/b] 于 2007-8-28 15:26:00 发表
请问有没有朋友知道目前（07年）广州那家音响行是 雨后 的经销商或代理？ 我想买。。。。
在网上就是搜索不到啊！:( [/quote]
原来一直是诺昌，现在换了吗？
cluytens - 2007/8/28 15:59:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]灼焰寒冰[/b] 于 2007-8-27 22:44:00 发表
请问PM14SA和naim nait5i哪个推hl5好？ [/quote]
naim nait5i應該比較好些……………
WARMSUN - 2007/8/28 16:43:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]novak[/b] 于 2007-8-28 15:49:00 发表
[quote] 原帖由 [b]WARMSUN[/b] 于 2007-8-28 15:26:00 发表
请问有没有朋友知道目前（07年）广州那家音响行是 雨后 的经销商或代理？ 我想买。。。。
在网上就是搜索不到啊！:( [/quote]
原来一直是诺昌，现...... [/quote]
非常感谢！ 看到你的回帖后，搜索到了诺昌的电话就打过去了。 对方确认还在做 雨后初晴。
我心仪 M40， 但对方告知：M40正在改款中，没有现货。 价格无法报出。 其他的都有。但是电话中不报价。请到店里现场报价。
再次感谢NOVAK！
novak - 2007/8/28 17:23:00
:) 区区小事，不要客气。
对，M40还在改款，大约现在投产了？他们要自己新造低音单元。据说厂家已经欠了一些了。希望价格不要太高啊，另外那新的单元不知声音如何。
WARMSUN - 2007/8/28 20:51:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]novak[/b] 于 2007-8-28 17:23:00 发表
:) 区区小事，不要客气。
对，M40还在改款，大约现在投产了？他们要自己新造低音单元。据说厂家已经欠了一些了。希望价格不要太高啊，另外那新的单元不知声音如何。 [/quote]
什么都怕，就怕涨价啊。。。:(
爱hifi - 2007/8/29 8:28:00
关注M40改款的消息，谁有最新动态希望在这分享一下。
灼焰寒冰 - 2007/8/29 11:04:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]cluytens[/b] 于 2007-8-28 15:59:00 发表
[quote] 原帖由 [b]灼焰寒冰[/b] 于 2007-8-27 22:44:00 发表
请问PM14SA和naim nait5i哪个推hl5好？ [/quote]
naim nait5i應該比較好些…………… [/quote]
那如果nait5i和麦乐迪HSA或S2A比呢？
cluytens - 2007/8/31 11:13:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]爱hifi[/b] 于 2007-8-29 8:28:00 发表
关注M40改款的消息，谁有最新动态希望在这分享一下。 [/quote]
[size=2]轉貼一下Harbeth user Group的文章
[color=navy]New generation Monitor 40 (M40.1 provisional name)
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I have not been able to give my full attention to the User Group for several weeks. This is because of my commitment to the final stages of the design of the new Monitor 40. Now that I have virtually finished, I would like to take a short holiday. After I return, I will listen again and if I am completely satisfied, we can set a production start date for as early as possible.
This project has been underway for over a year and has ranged through every single aspect of the design. The original objective was quite narrow; to replace the abruptly discontinued VIFA bass unit with a Harbeth designed, Harbeth made woofer. However, as the months progressed, I became deeper and deeper involved with the minute details of the design, and this led to numerous small improvements. So the bass unit is completely new - a 12" first for Harbeth and the midrange driver is a new version featuring a 9 ohm voice coil to keep the system impedance nice and high: a very easy load indeed.
Unfortunately, the changes are so extensive that there is no practical upgrade path from the original model.
You may be interested in my reasoning behind the overall system balance of the new M40.1. I believe that in the 10 years since production commenced we have filled most of the professional installations that demand a true-BBC monitor. Also, most BBC installations are Active, and this allows great flexibility in tuning the speaker to the studio acoustics which is not possible with the passive version as used at home. This has resulted in some users deciding to invest in room-EQ systems when I would like to save them the cost, trouble and inconvenience by making the M40 even more universally usable in ordinary rooms.
The working life of a Harbeth is 15-20 years (or more) so the best potential for sales growth for the M40 is the domestic non-studio market; that is, ordinary rooms in your homes. With this in mind, I have decided that as the Active version offers whatever adjustments the pro user demands, I should concentrate on making the new M40 100% domestic friendly. That means, in the same size classic-BBC three-way box as the previous model ...
1. A tighter, dryer bass thanks to the cast-chassis plastic-coned Harbeth-designed and made 12" woofer (compared to the pressed chassis, paper coned VIFA unit)
2. Higher electrical resistance (and easier load)
3. Even smoother frequency response by attending to micro-details in the response,
4. Better on and above-axis response integration so less height critical due to complete redesign of the crossover (which uses less components)
5. New 8" RADIAL midrange driver with 9 ohm voice coil and long-throw high-flux magnet
and ....
6. Overall system is noticeably more sensitive. About 4dB more sensitive than the original model so nearly the same sensitivity as the C7ES3. That's an astonishing increase in efficiency.
Needless to say, it sounds 100% true to the Harbeth philosophy. What astonishes me is just how huge and unconstrained the sound stage is: as if the sound stage curves around the speakers and along the side walls. It must be related to the extremely well integrated responses.
We have many back orders to complete so please order soon if you expect delivery in 2007. More details to follow: look out for the August 07 News & Views newsletter with pictures of the (grey box, pro-cabinet) prototype being tested recently by Derek and myself in the BBC anechoic chamber. Normal domestic veneers are and remain Cherry and Eucalyptus. Picture of my prototype crossover - fewer components than the original model. I will try and make time to design a new PCB on my laptop.
Am I allowed a short holiday now - please?!
Alan A. Shaw[/color][/size]
郁风 - 2007/9/3 23:42:00
超五听SACD用不用加上超高音音箱啊？
gfg - 2007/9/4 14:27:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]灼焰寒冰[/b] 于 2007-8-29 11:04:00 发表
[quote] 原帖由 [b]cluytens[/b] 于 2007-8-28 15:59:00 发表
[quote] 原帖由 [b]灼焰寒冰[/b] 于 2007-8-27 22:44:00 发表
请问PM14SA和naim nait5i哪个推hl5好？ [/quote]
naim nait5i應該比較好些……………...... [/quote]
S2A or Naim 112X+150X
灼焰寒冰 - 2007/9/4 20:41:00
谢谢楼上兄弟！
看了一个网友对比S2A和16.0的帖子后我订了16.0，碰碰运气吧，看是否符合我的口味
[url]http://bbs.hifi168.com/showtopic-122957.aspx[/url]
yxahz - 2007/9/4 21:20:00
我觉得naim和雨后是对味的
爱hifi - 2007/9/5 8:26:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]yxahz[/b] 于 2007-9-4 21:20:00 发表
我觉得naim和雨后是对味的 [/quote]
novak兄：昨晚将铭CD5X和音乐之旅CD机EMC1 UP(升级版)进行了比较，以下是我的一些体会：1、从外观上不用比，二机在重量体积上相差很大，如果你是注重用料的摩机派，一定看不起铭；2、后者是带升频(24比特196K取样)，前者带HDCD ，从声音上比，相差是很明显的，二者比较而言(注意，是相比较)铭是以音乐取胜，声音从容自然，有一定厚度(密度感好于音乐之旅)，带有LP倾向。音乐之旅和铭比，二端延伸好，低频控制好，高频解析力略好于铭，声音就像北欧的高原雪水，带来一股清澈，声音总体透明度和速度强于铭(听朋友说音乐之旅CD机上用上挪威脚钉，个人认为有这样的声音取向就不足为怪了)，刚开机时声音发紧，不耐听，1个小时后改善。
如你想在二者选一，就要看你现在想改善什么？对我而言，铭是我上一个系统的选择，但现在的系统我需要增加透明度和速度，可能音乐之旅合适些。
贪心讲，如果二个机子的优点合在一起有多好，呵呵，世上事经常要取舍。
感谢novak促使我进行了这次比较，让我体会到铭在我系统中的影响。
novak - 2007/9/5 8:29:00
非常感谢爱hifi兄的热情相助！我要想一想，好像我还是比较倾向Naim:)
爱hifi - 2007/9/5 8:34:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]novak[/b] 于 2007-9-5 8:29:00 发表
非常感谢爱hifi兄的热情相助！我要想一想，好像我还是比较倾向Naim:) [/quote]
呵呵，不客气，不是你的鼓动，我真没有这个冲动，你知道自己喜欢什么最重要。
novak - 2007/9/5 9:02:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]爱hifi[/b] 于 2007-9-5 8:34:00 发表
[quote] 原帖由 [b]novak[/b] 于 2007-9-5 8:29:00 发表
非常感谢爱hifi兄的热情相助！我要想一想，好像我还是比较倾向Naim:) [/quote]
呵呵，不客气，不是你的鼓动，我真没有这个冲动，你知道自己喜欢什么最重要。...... [/quote]
我看你来一个EMC-1就好了，你说呢，呵呵。当然要谢谢你啦！
名级潜水艇 - 2007/9/5 9:22:00
跑道这里混来啦?
爱hifi - 2007/9/5 10:17:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]novak[/b] 于 2007-9-5 9:02:00 发表
[quote] 原帖由 [b]爱hifi[/b] 于 2007-9-5 8:34:00 发表
[quote] 原帖由 [b]novak[/b] 于 2007-9-5 8:29:00 发表
非常感谢爱hifi兄的热情相助！我要想一想，好像我还是比较倾向Naim:) [/quote]
呵呵，不客气，不...... [/quote]
玩音响一是要知道自己的方向，二是要尽量发挥现有器材，不轻言放弃。我准备这二天抽时间借朋友一副挪威脚钉(不到300元)在CD机上验证一下(同一方向，不同的方法)，这是有趣的。
novak - 2007/9/5 12:14:00
爱hifi兄，等挪威脚钉在naim CD5X下面，请把结果告诉大伙:)
novak - 2007/9/5 12:21:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]名级潜水艇[/b] 于 2007-9-5 9:22:00 发表
跑道这里混来啦? [/quote]
我本来就在这里，咋啦？
名级潜水艇 - 2007/9/5 12:38:00
HUHU!看来跟我混的时间还差不多呢:(
爱hifi - 2007/9/5 18:02:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]novak[/b] 于 2007-9-5 12:14:00 发表
爱hifi兄，等挪威脚钉在naim CD5X下面，请把结果告诉大伙:) [/quote]
冇问题，今晚就去朋友家听50年代老天朗，顺便带回来，争取明晚玩一下。
STAAA - 2007/9/5 19:41:00
我也是HL5的用家.声源也是NIAM的CD2.效果很好.高频的延伸就差那么一点点.有点遗憾.
novak - 2007/9/5 21:08:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]名级潜水艇[/b] 于 2007-9-5 12:38:00 发表
HUHU!看来跟我混的时间还差不多呢:( [/quote]
同道水艇。
爱hifi - 2007/9/6 8:02:00
[quote] 原帖由 [b]STAAA[/b] 于 2007-9-5 19:41:00 发表
我也是HL5的用家.声源也是NIAM的CD2.效果很好.高频的延伸就差那么一点点.有点遗憾. [/quote]
CD2当然好了(价也高了)，铭听小提琴(爱听小提琴)有那一种“厚肉”感，松松的，以我前二天比较的音乐之旅CD机来讲，后者亮了，力度加强了，HiFi了，但小提琴的“厚、松”退减了，心有所失。